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Offline busa32927

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has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« on: July 13, 2017, 04:42:17 PM »
just a question/food for thought.  its seems that people have really been wanting a really good star wars pin.  Lots of floks seem to be saving and trying to sell games for this title.  This isnt about if SW is or isnt a good good game, but the large ripple it has made in the community. 

1.  I see older used games are getting harder to sell at asking price, thus driving prices down to get them to move to save money for SW
2.  New used games are not coming up for sale  so not sure if those will take a hit and sit
3.  No talk about recent releases

With this disturbance in the force will all used games be driven down in price because the new games are taking a large step forward in looks and possible initial code release.
Will elvira or Gaudiness of the Galaxy eclipse SW
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2017, 05:03:19 PM »
1.  I see older used games are getting harder to sell at asking price, thus driving prices down to get them to move to save money for SW
no. all games have shot up wayy too high for the buying market to support. there will be a settling point that has nothing to do with star wars.

2.  New used games are not coming up for sale  so not sure if those will take a hit and sit
i still look at every game as release price, 2 years lose 15 to 30%, then they will slowly climb and settle in around 8% below MSRP. there are exceptions.

3.  No talk about recent releases
no one cares until 5 months from now. wash, rinse, repeat. i want to bump the stern Spiderman and Avatar release threads. :P

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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2017, 05:27:46 PM »
no. all games have shot up wayy too high for the buying market to support. there will be a settling point that has nothing to do with star wars.

From reading this and some other posts, it seems like we're in the middle of a pricing bubble for pins.  Overall, how far down do you predict the prices to settle, on average, once that bubble bursts? Better yet, your opinion on when that will happen?*

(The wife wants a pin and I will eventually need to placate her. Seeing as I own none and know nothing about the market, I'm curious how long I'll want to wait.)

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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2017, 03:01:17 AM »


*k7 provides predictions for informational purposes only and in no way suggests an endorsement to buy, sell, hold, or engage in any other type of pinball transaction. The predictions made by k7 are the results of mathematical calculations based on a combination of random noise patterns searching through an incalculable multi-dimensional subspace of variables, with an unknown statistical error which cannot be ignored. Any "next day" predictions may result in a higher or lower error than the "current day" predictions. k7, his management, his associates and his staff are not responsible or liable in any way for any choices made based on the data provided. The data provided is for informational purposes only and in no way creates warranties, obligations, duties or fiduciary relationship of any kind. Readers of k7's posts, users of information gained through k7 and third parties who receive data from k7 agree to hold harmless k7, his management, employees, associates or agents and all involved with k7 and its related projects and keep k7 and those associated with k7 exonerated from all loss, damage, liability or expense occasioned or claimed by reasons of acts or neglects of acts in providing data and examples or other information posted by or related to k7. k7 is not registered as an pinball adviser with the U.S. Pinball Exchange Commission. The information is provided "as is" with no warranties of any kind, stated or implied and anyone who chooses to use the information contained in k7's posts is responsible for their own choices as to what to do with the data and the individual is responsible for the results that follow from their decisions.

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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2017, 06:41:08 AM »
Past results are not indicative of future results consult your financial planner and study your perspective before making any financial investments. Buying a NIN pin usually results in a 10-15% loss of value unless it's a cluster fuck like Dutch pinball. Play em don't keep them locked in your air conditioned storage unit so you can play Geraldo Reveria and open a NIB pin 20 years later. We see this with every new release last years hot pin becomes chopped liver. If you wait a year you can avoid the NIB pin depreciation.  Anyone want to sell me thier TWD to fund thier Star Wars.
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2017, 12:24:54 PM »
i think the desire for this title is higher than GB.   AS didnt have this level of attraction so it didnt really affect the force.  i guess time will tell.
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2017, 09:46:16 AM »
! *K7 needs to get this on record, stat...
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 01:20:06 PM »
Got to play SW Pro @ Curlys this past Sunday.

Fast playfield, Nice graphics on cabinet, Video screen is very well done with video and sound. Im sure the modding community will not run out of ideas on this.

If you have not played this yet... The Pinball Lounge has a SW Pro and Curly has one on the showroom.
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 09:14:49 AM »
I'm still seeing a divergence in prices.  NIB are going up substantially faster than used prices, which look like a 10% rise over the past 6 years.  You can check year over year changes of your favorite game:

http://www.bostonpinball.biz/ebay0517.htm
http://www.bostonpinball.biz/ebay0516.htm
http://www.bostonpinball.biz/ebay0514.htm
http://www.bostonpinball.biz/ebay0513.htm
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 09:24:38 AM »
new in box trons were $3700 shipped. 6 years ago.   star wars pro is about $5200 shipped today.


that's a 40% upswing. i'd say used games have done a stronger upswing, but depends on the title (and the boston guide doesn't match my local memory):


for example, twilight zones doing $1400+/- 6 years ago locally/village (guide says $3200 ???), now pull $5500+/- locally/village (guide says $3800). but a shaq has gone from $860 to about $965. and shaq's the better game. ;D
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Re: has Star Wars made a disturbance in the force?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 09:48:34 PM »
Gee I feel dirty about my $2000 TZ I got back in 2000...   did I get ripped off?  I mean really... there weren't any Shaqs available....😎
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