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EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« on: November 11, 2017, 12:35:23 PM »
I'm just wondering what everybody's preference is for bulbs when restoring EM pinball Machines?   I have some that are all 47 bulbs, some that are all 44's, and a couple with LED's.  I like the extra light with the LED's on a playfield with bold colors, and I also enjoy the older 47 /44 bulbs for a more classic look.  When I put an LED game next to a 47 bulb game, the 47's do look a little dull.  Do you guys change all 44's to 47's or just keep the 44's?  The 44's seem a little brighter.

Thanks in advance for your opinions,

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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 12:40:49 PM »
Nobody will agree on this so just do what you like.
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 12:54:53 PM »
Nobody will agree on this so just do what you like.

Agreed.
Just note ... when you put in the LED's... you may need to squeeze the holder alittle bit so the bulb can make good contact.

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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 01:30:43 PM »
47's are 47 ohm and 44's are 44 ohms, the 44's use more current/amps and are brighter, and when you use them in an electronic machine, it pulls more amps thru the connectors, they get hot, causing them to burn the plugs/wiring/boards.  That's is whats nice about LEDs, they don't use much power to light up. 
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 01:52:48 PM »
I'm just wondering what everybody's preference is for bulbs when restoring EM pinball Machines?   I have some that are all 47 bulbs, some that are all 44's, and a couple with LED's.  I like the extra light with the LED's on a playfield with bold colors, and I also enjoy the older 47 /44 bulbs for a more classic look.  When I put an LED game next to a 47 bulb game, the 47's do look a little dull.  Do you guys change all 44's to 47's or just keep the 44's?  The 44's seem a little brighter.

Thanks in advance for your opinions,

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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 12:57:29 PM »
If you're going LED on EM might I suggest to keep all colors uniform and don't try to highlight colors w color LEDS...

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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 01:04:37 PM »
I use retro leds for GI and cool white 2 smd frosted for inserts, from Comet Pinball
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 04:04:31 PM »
I prefer LED's in EM's especially under playfield plastics (so there's no risk of them warping) as well as the head so the back-glass doesn't get too hot.
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 04:18:12 PM »
LED's all the way for so many reasons. You have many choices in styles so play around untill you find the right combination. Good Luck!
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 06:10:52 PM »
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 06:32:48 PM »
Thanks guys, as always, for your input!
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2017, 10:00:22 PM »
stay away from the 44s as much as is convient but defiantely no 44s inside the bumper bodies, plastics and inserts. they are just too hot. 47s are abig improvement.
I use comet non ghosting 50/50 leds inside bumper bodies and under the inserts, theyre a little too bright to use on the upside of the playfield. oh yeah 47s at the score reels if you have them.
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 05:41:45 PM »
Nobody will agree on this so just do what you like.

lol...this is fact. :)

I use 44 or 47, they're not on enough to cook anything in a home environment. I also use colored 44s in spots for that extra color light.

in general, I am not a fan of LEDs in EMs, although they can come out beautiful when done right.  :)
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 01:22:19 PM »
 I guess what K& says is probably true that is , in the home environment games aren't on long enuff for the 44s to burn anything,
However, I'm still going with not using 44s under bumper caps and by the score reels. if you have the 47s, you really should use them. I think of it as more about preventative maintenance then anything else.
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Re: EM Pinball Machine Bulbs: 44 / 47 / or LED?
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 02:18:05 PM »
Thanks guys, lots of good input.  I might give those Retro LED's a try. 
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