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Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« on: February 06, 2018, 11:05:35 PM »
This is crazy/sad!


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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 11:21:50 PM »
Here is an article if you can't or don't want to do YT

 https://kotaku.com/infamous-atari-player-gets-world-record-removed-after-3-1822511777

I saw this a week ago but wasn't sure if it needed posted. Since there is a thread now it should probably be in the retro section.

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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 11:29:33 PM »
I'm kinda shocked to see that so many record scores were 'verified' by only ONE person/ref, even if that person in this case ended up in jail.
Was redundancy just not considered back then?

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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 11:35:39 PM »
These were the wild west days, Twin Galaxies was barely a thing and it was literally kids reporting scores by mail.
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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 07:24:19 PM »
Bummer.
I finally got to spend a few minutes talking with Billy Mitchell at the last Freeplay and he seemed cool.

But I guess when people are put on pedestals there's nowhere for them to go but down...

Is it feasible that TG high scores made over 10 or so years ago, in a non-public location, should be 're-proven'?
Or heck, wipe everything out and start again from scratch! That would get crap loads of people interested and give the top guys a chance to prove they're still the best.


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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 07:48:20 PM »
the biggest shock to me is someone played dragster more than 1 time.
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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 10:01:18 PM »
Without getting into a lengthy detail of the game. 0 3 & 7 are the three possible last numbers of a perfect score 5.50 & 5.53 aren’t possible. 5.57 is and has been done multiple times.

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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 12:10:43 AM »
Seems strange to only recently question a process that was for the most part painstakingly done by the only people in the world willing to take on this task for no compensation.  They all knew each other back then.  They were competitive, and maybe a few scores here and there weren't 100%, but something like this could bring into question every record TG has on file, at which point we have no history.
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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2018, 06:33:00 AM »
there will be some hard hitting questions for todd at the next freeplay!!!
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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2018, 06:40:45 AM »
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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2018, 09:11:10 AM »
The fact that I even know who these people are makes me feel like a loser.  :(  ;)
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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2018, 09:30:47 AM »
The fact that I even know who these people are makes me feel like a loser.  :(  ;)

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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2018, 10:20:13 AM »
Todd Rogers is a nice guy and has always been nice enough to come out to the local shows.. I don't have anything bad to say about him.

The scoring is troubling. I figured the Dragster score was legit since he apparently did it live a few times? If it is legit.. I'd be feverishly trying to recreate that right now. Imagine if he can get a sub 5.7 time and send the atari/cart to ben heck to verify. Would be epic.. but alas not sure we'll see that happen as I don't think he's achieved that score recorded live.

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Re: Todd Rogers BANNED from TG scores?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2018, 10:31:17 AM »
I'm glad I didn't know about competitive gaming back in the day... I probably would have gone crazy with trying to get world records on my games.. Back in the early 80's this would have been a big deal to my teenage self.  Sad to see that some took it so far as to cheat.  As an Adult, it seems ridiculous to me AND I wonder how people have time for it.  But to each his own, if that's someone's passion, good for you. 

That being said, I love the current state of forensic review of old records to call out the cheaters.. I have a feeling there's more to come. 
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